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Weed fin Education (I need some)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:33 pm
by RickHeninger
Consider the Lilly Pads of the Field.

Ok, Weed fins... I am somewhat vague on the subject. Although I have a couple pretty good swept back fins... The ones I have still catch a few of the weeds causing boggage. (That is bogging down from excess baggage)... Alright, this is probably reinventing the wheel to some extent, but I just haven't really considered it to be a big enough issue to prompt me to buy a really good weedfin. If Rush continues to bloom and be deep enough to sail it'll be an issue.

I have some questions about the weeds.

I don't remember weeds being a huge problem at Rush. Is it because there are fewer fish to eat the algae? The water is more freshER right now? Weeds only appear when the water is at a specific shallowness? The ground under the water is still "hard" enough for weed roots to take hold? Or have they always been there?

Maybe Dimitri and Emmanuel can come up with a spaceage fin that completely renders weeds a NON-FACTOR... :?

How about a fin that is composed of 5 short fins spread laterally... The middle fin being front to back like 18 inches long but only goes 3 inches deep at the back, then the next two fins (on either side) connected to the middle fin by a strong bridge of some sort that is thin and hydro dynamic hugging the board... OR, I'm trying to reinvent the wheel.

Are there weed fins that work well enough to make the weeds a non-factor?

I haven't experienced one yet. And if they do work by shedding the weeds, how do they perform hydrodynamically?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:25 pm
by Kenny
Rick,

There is really one solution for Rush until the water mosses over or drys up completely - come over to the dark side. Come frolick with the mudboarders in the final remnants of Rush this July/August. The riding actually gets better as the water becomes more shallow. Nothing is better than riding powered up on butter smooth water. Riding in 4 inches of glass water in 20 mph winds up to the pig farm and back yesterday was simply amazing.

I do wish that the water level was higher so that sailors and kiteboarders alike could ride to the pig farm and enjoy a little bit of swell once in a while. However, that is not to be any longer this year. The way the launch spots are disappearing at Utah lake for kiteboarders, it may soon become Rush as the designated kiteboarding locale and Utah lake as the sailing destination.

Kenny

That's great Kenny...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:03 pm
by RickHeninger
Kenny,

Ok, Darth Vader! :twisted: Careful, I might sick Yoda on you! "Rick, I am your father!"... It's so hard to have multiple sports isn't it... The whole serving two masters thing. But the times I've tried kiteboarding I've loved it.

The pig farm huh? Is that way up at the south end of the lake?

Weed fins

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:19 pm
by miker
The weeds this year at Rush are weeds. In years past it has been very fine blooms of thick moss. With the bottom being more solid there are more weeds then moss. I'm sure this could change any time.

Good weed fins have 45 degree angle to shed the weeds. Fin Works makes a nice one. Sweep back wave fins don't cut it. I rode some hypersonics two years ago in Florida with nice big weed fins and they rode great.

Mona also gets a lot weeds in late summer so your investment in a weed fin could also be used at Mona.

Weed fins

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:35 am
by Sarah Ranes
Lot's of info on Rec.windsurfing about this subject. It sounds like there are a few good ones out there. Alot of times the regular swept back wave fins that we use do not cut it. the leading edge right next to the board is not angled enough to shed the weeds. It sounds important too, to have the leading edge of the fins moved quite a bit forward, to help with the spin out. Several companines boast that they have fins to shed all weeds. Bill Kline at gsports fins in the gorge will talk your ear off about it. Wardog at surfingsports.com says that his weed fin is the best.

I have not gotten to try any of them yet, but it sounds like there are some pretty good ones out there. Good luck in your search, let us know what you try and how it works....GQ

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:12 pm
by Rick McClain
Rick,
I have one and it's great. I don't even have to think about weeds while I'm on the water. Never swerve. And I can't believe how many sails I've sailed with it: from about 4.5m to 8.5. I love it. One of the best investments I've made in gear. I would like to thank whoever sold it to me, but I can't remember who it was. Thought, at the time, that I might be wasting my money, but exceedingly glad I got it.

Rick McClain

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:33 pm
by Kenny
Rick I am your father...

Yes, the pig farm is at the south end of the lake. There is a ton of room to ride at that end. I don't know why all the kite boarders flock around the launch area on a good SE wind. The best water is definitely on the south end - I am speaking about the flatness of the water. The water on the south end smells like Rush lake of prior years.

Kenny

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:55 am
by Marty Lowe
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I don't know why all the kite boarders flock around the launch area on a good SE wind.

Kenny[/quote]

I love the flat water up there,
but it is only a few inches deep.
I'm not sure that is the best senario for learning new things.
IMHO

-Marty 8)

Pig Farm

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:38 pm
by miker
It really sucks on the south end by the pig farm. It's best to stay by the launch. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:09 pm
by Kenny
Yeah, Grants sucks too!