Is 13m The Biggest Frenzy?
				
Posted: 
Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:55 am 
				by Ralph Morrison
				I was thinking about getting a new foil but it looks like they don't make a 15m anymore. Is this true? What is their reason? What other kite options do I have?
			 
			
				Re: Is 13m The Biggest Frenzy?
				
Posted: 
Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:33 pm 
				by Kenny
				Ralph,
If you want to stick with a foil, your options are Flysurfer Speed 3 or Peter Lynn ARC. The ARC kites are simple to setup, but feel unresponsive and slow. The Speed 3 is a high-aspect foil with a ton of depower. For the snow, I would buy the Deluxe version which weighs 25% less. If you want to demo it, you can fly mine sometime.  I have a 21 and a 15. 
You might want to also demo the Frenzy Light in a 13m size. 
There are lots of good options if you don't mind pumping.
Kenny
			 
			
				Re: Is 13m The Biggest Frenzy?
				
Posted: 
Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:03 am 
				by bigwavedave
				Yeah that was a big mistake on ozones part. That's my most flown kite. I'll be holding onto my 15m mantas until ozone recognizes their stupidity and comes out with something bigger than a 13m.  I'm not sure I like the loss of the manta product. It still seemed better to me than the frenzy in performance.