12/22 Desperation Flats 15 waroo twilight session

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12/22 Desperation Flats 15 waroo twilight session

Postby Jason Klein » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:19 pm

When the snow started coming down hard in SLC, the boss announces that anyone who lives in PC should leave an hour early (2pm). Er.....OKAY...you know, i mean if you think we should.... :)))

Headed past the UDOT field, still doesn't look real deep, but i think its rideable. At 3:00 or so, there was no wind so i continued on to DF. The snow looked a lot better than when i rode there Friday, skimming over rocks. Still not much wind, tho. A wise man once said, "if you don't try to kite, you won't kite", so i sat and waited. After 45 mins, the wind started to come up a little, so i pumped the 15. By the time i was set up, wind was rideable, tho still light. I had the strangest experience as i started out. As i got going, i began getting shocked in my feet and hands. Not as strong as, say a shock from an outlet, but strong enough that i had to keep dropping the bar. When i would stop moving, it would stop. At first i thought maybe there was an electric line exposed to the snow somewhere, but i think it was just the conditions at the time. It was snowing really hard, and the snow was kind of wet. I think there was just enough static electricity in the air (or ground) flowing thru me into the ground (or air), and everything was wet enough to help get it conducted thru me. The snow slowed down in about 5 minutes, and it didn't happen further. Pretty wierd. Anyone ever experience something like that? Once i got done electrocuting myself, I rode for an hour underpowered, just cruising back and forth. As it started to get dark, the wind came up to maybe 15-16 average and i had a nice hour in the waning light. Gave up on jumping pretty soon as i just couldn't see the ground coming up for the landings, but had some nice high speed runs. You know my motto: kite til it gets dark, then kite another hour.

I thought the snow was in pretty good shape. There's tall grass still sticking up, but no actual plants, and i didn't hit a rock the whole time.

When i was packing up at 6, three guys i didn't know came out and began setting up a kite. It didn't look like they were completely sure what they were doing, so i went over to say hi and, as gingerly as i could manage, asked them if they had experience kiting, and if they might need any help. One of the three said he had kited before and said they would be ok. After packing up, I sat and watched them for a while to make sure they wouldn't kill themselves (and restrict our access). The guy took about 10 good diggers in a row and got yanked around a little, but was flying the kite ok - he wasn't getting lofted or dragged - and it wasn't real windy at that point. When i was satisfied that they didn't appear to be a danger to themselves (you know, if you ignore the kiting in the dark part), i left.

Not a bad afternoon.
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Re: 12/22 Desperation Flats 15 waroo twilight session

Postby Jacob Buzianis » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:11 am

Electrocuting while snowkiting. That's new to me. I have only heard people getting minor electrocuting while kiteboarding. It only happen when there a lighting storm near by. I haven't experiene being shock when kiting before. There much be a lighting storm near by that day or something.

I'm glad you got a session today after work.
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Re: 12/22 Desperation Flats 15 waroo twilight session

Postby Marty Lowe » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:25 am

Both Doug and I have felt the super static between feet and ground before at Skyline,
Just a little jump and bzzzaaaaapppp.
Scared the crap out of us.
Didn't see lightning, or hear any thunder.
We just waited it out, and later in the day, it was fine.

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Re: 12/22 Desperation Flats 15 waroo twilight session

Postby windzup » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:44 am

I believe it is called St Elmos Fire.

A heavy winter storm (one that has a lot of energy and dumps a lot of snow quickly)can act just like a summer thunder storm. Even tho there is no lightning, there can be electricity flowing.

Having your kite in the sky during a storm is what I would call..." giving it the Ben Franklin!"

I experienced a similar phenomenon in Minnesota on a frozen lake, a powerful storm had dropped 6 inches in an hour, and we kited the tail of the storm. Snowboarders were getting butt zaps when we sat down. This one skier with carbon skis was getting really zapped and couldn't let go of his bar. Guess carbon conducts better.

Glad you got a session in, finally snow!

Windzup,
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Re: 12/22 Desperation Flats 15 waroo twilight session

Postby whit » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:52 am

From Wikipedia.org:
"St. Elmo's fire is an electrical weather phenomenon in which luminous plasma is created.
Physically, St. Elmo's fire is a bright blue or violet glow, appearing like fire in some circumstances, from tall, sharply pointed structures such as lightning rods, masts, spires and chimneys, and on aircraft wings. St. Elmo's fire can also appear on leaves, grass, and even at the tips of cattle horns."
Noted throughout history on ship's masts.

I experienced an electrical buzzing and light shocking while snowkiting at Skyline in the Spring of 2003. It was mid afternoon, late spring, a common hour for thunderstorm development (and lightning buildup). The winds were created by a few snow squalls. No lightning in the area. Once the squalls went away, the electrical shocking ended.

Carbon Bars and Carbon Windsurfing Masts definitely conduct more electricity, much more easily. Kiting or Sailing in Lightning Storms is not recommended. Usually the lightning will pass and it will be fine. I remember seeing a picture of a burned Windsurf Rig on a carbon mast, from a direct lightning hit on Navajo Lake near Farmington, NM a few years back. BE CAREFUL.

Looks like we are getting a nice dump for Christmas.
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